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00:00:25 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:59 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 00:07:42 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:24:53 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6B74A.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:13 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 01:19:15 *** evert [~evert@static.50.140.9.5.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 01:20:38 <evert> I'm trying out the the firs newgrf, but I'm missing how to transport "engineering supplies", there is no train type for it? 01:27:58 <Eddi|zuHause> you need a train set that supports it 01:29:30 <evert> local only, or will it need something on the server as well? 01:29:43 <evert> and, any suggestions for a good set to go with firs? :) 01:37:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it needs to be on the server and all clients 01:37:56 <Eddi|zuHause> also, a road set, and a ship set, and a plane set 01:39:37 <evert> ok, any suggestions for a good pack? 01:39:54 <evert> can I do it within the current game that's running on the server, or will it require a new game? 01:44:09 <Eddi|zuHause> adding grfs will require a new game 02:15:41 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:13 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 02:32:16 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:55:36 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:18 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:17:54 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:26 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 03:19:30 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d083288.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 03:26:29 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d823a1b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:46:48 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:48:42 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 03:53:15 *** ConductingCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:54:55 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58:12 *** Tirili [~Unknown@2a02:8109:680:910:260:6eff:fe42:7728] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:00:03 *** Conductor_Cat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:53 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 04:03:08 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 04:13:36 *** day [~day@CPE-60-226-8-38.wrcz1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: off to save the cats] 04:15:09 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 04:54:57 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:f1c4:b671:d817:ec9b] has joined #openttd 05:00:09 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:08 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:59:31 *** Clockworker__ [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 06:07:13 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:19:20 *** Stimrol_ [~Stimrol@46-239-220-130.tal.is] has joined #openttd 06:20:54 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 06:25:34 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-220-130.tal.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:11:09 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-0-239.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:15:14 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-0-239.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:20:03 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:00:45 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 08:10:39 <dihedral> greetings 08:28:03 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 08:28:13 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has joined #openttd 08:31:43 *** ConductingCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:50 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 09:15:27 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:21 <Wolf01> o/ 10:00:36 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:41 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 10:13:28 *** Clockworker__ [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:22 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:56 <argoneus> ayy 11:57:06 <argoneus> anyone here plays chess? 12:03:38 <Wolf01> I know how to play 12:03:54 <argoneus> want to play a game? 12:03:57 <argoneus> i just started 12:03:59 <Wolf01> no 12:04:03 <argoneus> ( 12:04:15 <argoneus> I need to play against people who won't facefuck me 12:09:56 <Wolf01> also I don't have any chess game installed 12:10:20 *** glevans2 [~glevans21@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:41 *** glevans2 [~glevans21@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #openttd 12:10:59 <argoneus> Wolf01: I just give you a link 12:11:03 <argoneus> to an online chess place 12:11:05 <argoneus> where people play 12:11:08 <argoneus> you don't even need to register 12:16:31 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:19:21 <Eddi|zuHause> the last chess program i had was the example program that came with Borland Pascal 7 12:31:45 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:31:59 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:29 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:36:48 *** Ketsuban_ [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:2945:da63:e2d6:107d] has joined #openttd 12:37:00 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:f1c4:b671:d817:ec9b] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:27 *** Ketsuban_ [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:2945:da63:e2d6:107d] has quit [] 12:37:53 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:2945:da63:e2d6:107d] has joined #openttd 13:17:34 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.99.112] has joined #openttd 13:30:42 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:30:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 13:37:20 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:48:47 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.99.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:32:41 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 14:45:56 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-177.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 14:46:34 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:05:50 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06:24 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:30 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:57 <andythenorth> o/ 15:42:17 <Wolf01> o/ 15:44:36 *** _johannes [~johannes@port-92-203-230-50.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:49:21 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:52 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:56:03 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause, it seem that if you stay far away from enemy ships you do more damage, at least I managed to do 3k-5k instead of 400-900 when in close range 15:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause> there is certainly a "too close" thing happening 15:57:01 <Eddi|zuHause> also, cannon alignment and stuff 15:57:19 <Wolf01> no, the lead balls bounces on the ship and don't give enough damage 15:57:33 <Wolf01> from far away the balls don't bounce 15:59:08 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d083288.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:01:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 16:07:49 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C2AEB003DCFDD5E05088424.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:08:29 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 16:11:02 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.99.112] has joined #openttd 16:13:50 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:27 <_johannes> Why does the Vehicle class have a next and a next_shared pointer? 16:14:39 <_johannes> (and functions to access those) 16:15:11 <_johannes> From the code, it says that shared vehicles seem to share the same train? 16:16:01 <_johannes> I could use Next(), NextShared() and GetNextVehicle() ... 16:16:11 <_johannes> so how to iterate over all vehicles of a train? 16:31:09 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:45 <Wolf01> I think that shared stuff is meant for the orders/grouping, do you want to iterate over the wagons of a train? 16:43:03 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:43:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:48:32 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:49 <Alberth> o/ 16:52:41 <andythenorth> o/ 16:54:06 <_johannes> Wolf01: yes 16:55:36 <_johannes> Alberth: can you please see http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1455293667#1455293667 ? 16:55:41 <_johannes> hope I marked it right 16:57:09 <Alberth> hmm, and you think I know that? :p 16:57:19 <Alberth> did you check the depot display code? 16:57:34 <Alberth> that has to 'print' all wagons onto the screen 16:58:09 <Alberth> but my guess is Next() 16:59:02 <_johannes> hmm no I did not check that depot code, good idea 16:59:53 <Alberth> next_shared is to have a list of trains that share an order 17:00:30 <Alberth> so the order can just point to the first train 17:01:31 <_johannes> oh, wait, so Vehicle::next_shared can point to the first vehicle of the next train? 17:02:36 <Alberth> next train in the shared orders, I would hop 17:02:40 <Alberth> *hope 17:03:06 <_johannes> ok 17:03:16 <Alberth> it should skip trains that have a different order :) 17:03:52 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:49 <Alberth> hmm, so there must be a way to find the last wagon too 17:05:13 <Alberth> no idea about that, depot code should be able to tell you 17:06:00 <Alberth> autoreplace could also work, but that code is more difficult 17:06:29 <Alberth> due to newgrf extensions :p 17:07:23 <_johannes> hmmm yes the depot could looks useful... 17:07:58 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-177.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:08:17 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:11:25 <_johannes> the depot code uses FOR_ALL_VEHICLES 17:11:34 <_johannes> I feel dumb now :P 17:12:43 <Alberth> nah, it takes time to understand how to approach foreign code :) 17:14:55 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:11 <Wolf01> lol, I managed to blow up a ship I had to capture... 17:15:17 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:41 <Alberth> oops :) 17:15:55 <Wolf01> I do too much damage XD 17:16:07 <Wolf01> 8k with one volley 17:16:18 <Alberth> :) 17:17:26 <Wolf01> \o/ I can purchase a frigate now 17:17:37 <Wolf01> doubling the damage I do 17:17:43 <Alberth> lol :) 17:18:13 <Alberth> now find some more sturdy enemies :p 17:18:30 <_johannes> hmmm FOR_ALL_VEHICLES does not take a reference to the first vehicle of the train... does it iterate over all vehicles of the game? :-/ 17:18:57 <Alberth> yes, all vehicles :) 17:19:15 <Alberth> isn't there a all_trains macro? 17:19:59 <_johannes> indeed... 17:20:01 <Alberth> train.h 17:20:01 <Alberth> 339:#define FOR_ALL_TRAINS(var) FOR_ALL_VEHICLES_OF_TYPE(Train, var) 17:20:40 <_johannes> well, that's still not good to iterate over all vehicles for each train 17:20:49 <_johannes> complexity n^2 :P 17:21:50 <_johannes> ok, the Vehicle::Next() worked! 17:36:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19572.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B74A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:47:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:52:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f053176031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:57:17 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 17:57:33 * andythenorth must to chores 17:57:42 <andythenorth> also 2 more industries left to draw 17:57:48 <Alberth> :o 17:58:09 <Alberth> oh, new economy of course, I thought you'd run out of IDs 17:58:46 <andythenorth> we have loads of IDs left now :) 17:59:18 <andythenorth> Iâm at 76 out of 128 17:59:19 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 17:59:33 *** Clockworker__ [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:59:40 <andythenorth> I would be surprised if I can push it above 100 17:59:46 <Alberth> oooh, 50 induestries to go :p 18:00:47 <andythenorth> the number of cargos provides an effective brake on number of industries 18:01:07 <andythenorth> at some point, industries start to repeat cargos, or are nonsense :) 18:01:13 <Alberth> yeah, you don't want too many industries 18:01:59 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:02:19 <andythenorth> I think 40 is about right for a large economy 18:02:24 <andythenorth> and around 20 for a basic economy 18:03:06 <Alberth> but I guess design is different of both 18:03:18 <andythenorth> yup 18:06:07 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:52 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@201-34-115-49.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:52 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:22:22 <Quatroking> if I replace trucks, will they automatically be refitted to the cargo they were holding? 18:23:24 <Quatroking> apparently so 18:23:25 <Quatroking> neat 18:29:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:38:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19572.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6B7D9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B74A.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:58 <_johannes> a Vehicle has a VehicleCargoList... 18:59:16 <_johannes> I give up trying to understand it... 19:00:32 <Alberth> you can have several cargoes loaded in a single vehicle, would be my guess 19:00:47 <Alberth> eg mail + passengers in a single wagon 19:00:58 <Alberth> but not sure about this 19:01:07 <_johannes> ahh... 19:01:55 <Alberth> it can also be a refit list, no idea at all how that works 19:02:16 <Alberth> ie when you select a wagon in the refit window, you get a list of refits you can use 19:02:39 <Alberth> that has to be stored somewhere too :) 19:03:45 <Alberth> or in the order "refit wagon to ..." 19:04:12 <Alberth> yep, mega-complicated, loads of stuff stacked on top of each other :) 19:04:31 <_johannes> hmm it has stuff like DaysInTransit() 19:07:28 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 19:08:34 <_johannes> All these helpful comments :P 19:08:45 <_johannes> VehicleCargoList: CargoList that is used for vehicles. 19:09:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00b58a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:09:11 <Alberth> DaysInTransit is for computing payments 19:09:22 <Alberth> shorter transit times means more money 19:09:32 <Alberth> hoi 19:09:58 <_johannes> what does the term "cargo packets" mean? 19:10:09 <_johannes> why "packets"? 19:10:16 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.145.99.112] has joined #openttd 19:10:20 <_johannes> is this refit-specific? 19:12:26 <_johannes> or is it like 1 unit of cargo? e.g. if a coal waggon carries "30 coal", it carries 30 packets? 19:12:49 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:13:47 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.145.99.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:06 <_johannes> ahh I think that's it... a cargo packet is one unit, and it can be stored on a train or in a station 19:16:44 <Alberth> units of cargo are packed together as much as possible to reduce computations 19:17:25 <_johannes> you mean like "5 units are one packet" ? 19:17:54 <frosch123> no, all cargo of the same type, origin in the same place are one packet 19:18:13 <_johannes> ahh ok 19:18:31 <frosch123> all coal from station brunswig central in second wagon of train 123 19:19:04 <_johannes> ok clear... 19:19:58 <Alberth> loaded at the same time too ? 19:20:04 <frosch123> no 19:20:12 <frosch123> it has an average age 19:20:21 <Alberth> ah, makes sense 19:20:35 <_johannes> so the Vehicle::VehicleCargoList is the list of all packets currently stored in this Vehicle? 19:20:41 <frosch123> when cargo packets from same origin are merged, the average age is weighted according to amounts 19:20:51 <frosch123> _johannes: yes 19:33:49 <_johannes> frosch123: can you explain why vehicle has a next and a next_shared pointer? 19:33:58 <_johannes> next seems to be the next Vehicle in the train... 19:34:16 <frosch123> next is the next vehicle part in the same consist 19:34:26 <frosch123> in the easiest case the next wagon 19:34:47 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:2945:da63:e2d6:107d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:34:54 <frosch123> so, "next" links between vehicles in the same chain 19:34:57 <_johannes> a more difficult case? 19:35:19 <frosch123> "next_shared" otoh links between consists, which share orders 19:35:50 <frosch123> more difficult case would be articulated vehicles, which appear like one "wagon" to the user, but actualy consist of multiple parts 19:36:18 <frosch123> and also aircraft shadow and helicopter rotor are separate vehicles within the same consist 19:36:32 <_johannes> lol 19:36:59 <frosch123> for example a single vehicle part only carries a single cargo type 19:37:16 <frosch123> the mail compartment of aircraft is actually in the shadow vehicle part 19:38:23 <_johannes> ok, now if we have one order with two trains, then Vehicle::next_shared of the train 1, veh. 1 points to train 2, veh. 1? 19:38:28 <frosch123> anyway, you never use those pointers directly 19:38:28 <Eddi|zuHause> _johannes: each train is a chain, that is traversed via next. and each of these vehicle chains is connected at their head the next_shared. so shared vehicles are a chain of chains 19:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause> _johannes: yes. if you are at train N, vehicle 1, then next_shared will traverse to train N+1, vehicle 1. next will traverse to train N vehicle 2 19:40:49 <Eddi|zuHause> from train N vehicle M you can go next to train N vehicle M+1. but next_shared will never be valid for M>1 19:41:45 <frosch123> _johannes: take a look at ScriptVehicleList_SharedOrders::ScriptVehicleList_SharedOrders 19:41:45 <_johannes> Eddi|zuHause: ah ok, makes sense... 19:41:55 <frosch123> it iterates over consists which share orders 19:43:25 <Eddi|zuHause> _johannes: for things like this it's usually easier if you draw it 19:43:59 <_johannes> Eddi|zuHause: yeah it would be good if such a drawing would be in the docs :D 19:44:05 <Eddi|zuHause> _johannes: or graphviz it :p 19:45:04 <frosch123> docs never explain stuff that is used in dozen of similar incarnations throughout the code 19:45:29 <frosch123> you just don't explain the usage of std::vector whenever using it 19:52:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:48 <andythenorth> well well well 20:01:24 <frosch123> look, it's the guy from greenland 20:03:06 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:37 <andythenorth> hmm 20:04:47 <andythenorth> how long until April 1st? 20:04:58 <frosch123> 4 weeks for me 20:05:42 <andythenorth> you have a special calendar? o_O 20:07:26 <frosch123> min_active_clients will stop the time on my computer 20:07:38 <andythenorth> ha 20:07:43 <Milek7> !wolfram days until april 1st 20:07:48 <Milek7> whops, wrong channel 20:08:22 <mikegrb> > 49 days 20:08:31 <mikegrb> from wolram alpha in my menu bar 20:08:56 <andythenorth> I need at least 5 of those for drawing 2 industries :| 20:09:00 <andythenorth> not sure where Iâll get them :) 20:10:51 <frosch123> did you look on ebay? 20:13:24 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you talk like there's going to be an openttd release that you have to catch up with 20:13:36 <andythenorth> that is true 20:13:39 <andythenorth> maybe there wonât be ? 20:22:58 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@25.103.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 20:26:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:21 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: mescalito] 20:49:29 *** _johannes [~johannes@port-92-203-230-50.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:39 *** mescalito [~mescalito@251-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 21:07:18 <andythenorth> /me -> bed 21:07:20 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:07:35 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:55 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C2AEB003DCFDD5E05088424.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:32:06 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C2AEB003DCFDD5E05088424.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:34:08 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 21:42:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19572.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:02:56 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 22:03:57 <Wolf01> 'night 22:03:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:05:07 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f053176031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:08:17 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:25:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19572.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19572.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:33:55 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@50-37-95-240.mscw.id.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 22:57:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d00b58a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:01:13 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:04:21 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 23:11:11 *** swiss [~oftc-webi@208.241.78.83.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined #openttd 23:11:30 <swiss> is sombody from switzerland? 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